Floor Safes model FS-B4

Floor Safes model FS-B4 is the largest in B Rated Floor Safes in this line of steel safes.  Extremely strong with 1/4 steel body and a massive thick steel door with drill resistant hardplate.  Same quality workmanship goes into this floor safe as the other floor safes models FS-B1 and FS-B2. 

The door is spring loaded for easy access.  Just dial the combination, turn the handle, and Voila’ the door pops up and open.  Much easier than removing the entire door to get to the safe on the smaller non-spring loaded hinge models.

There is a sort of down side to this unit.  That is the length is 24 inches! Which is huge and you will need a long arm to reach the back of the safe model.  Also can leed to confusion once this safe starts getting full.  Best to figure out a way to organize this safe so you don’t have to empty the safe just reach something in the far back corner.   But on the bright side. If you are into installing floor safes…install a big one so you don’t out grow it.

Lock is Sargent and Greenleaf made in Kentucky.  One of the best combination locks on the market today. Exported around the world.  As a matter of fact this lock is exported to South Korea and put on the floor safes model.  Then re-imported to the USA. (sounds a bit crazy to me but it works) Also, we can set this safe combination to your desired combination numbers. Just fill out the comments section with the combo and we can set it at no extra charge.

Be sure to wrap this floor safe in a plastic bag before you pour concrete around it.  This will allow the safe to last longer, prevent rust, and keep her dry for years.  I normally use either a very thick “lawn and leaf” bag or a thick painters drop cloth wraped around the entire floor safe. 

Over all I give this floor safe a big thumbs up for quality and theft prevention.  This is a top notch model on the market today. 

One last item.  In case you are asking yourself if this is fireproof. It is not. However, it does get fireprotection from the concrete you pour around it. I am unaware of any “Fireproof” floor safes.  Because all the manufactures have designed the safe to be surrounded by concrete which is excellant protection against fire. You can see this model and other floor safes in our Floor Safes model section on Valuesafes.

Also be sure to read about our other floor safes models here in the blog. Just type in the model number and an article will pop up.

Floor Safe FS-B2

The floor safes model FS-B2 is a larger version of the FS-B1.  Same top notch B rating with drill resistant hardplate. Spring loaded relocker to protect against proffesional theft attacks.  Sargent & Greenleaf dial combination made in Kentucky which is designed to last the life of the safe.  1/2 inch steel door with (3) 3/4 inch bolts to keep the door from being pryed opened. 

The body is 1/4 inch steel designed to protect your safe from shifting in the foundation or underground.  (Be sure to wrap the safe in plastic before concreting into the foundation.  This adds years of life to the steel and keeps out rust. )

Hinges are also spring loaded for ease of opening and closing the safe door.  Because these doors on floor safes with all the steel in them and the hardplate gets very heavy.  In my opinion its worth the extra money to get a floor safe with a spring loaded hinge. 

I get a lot of people calling me and asking which floor safe I would choose if I were putting into my house.  I don’t always answer very directly. But I do give strong suggestions to that if you are going to the trouble of installing a floor safe (and is more trouble to install then other types of Safes) make sure to get a B rated Floor Safe.  Larger than what you think you will need because people always fill them up over time or before they go on a vacation…and you don’t want to have to install two of these.  Also get one with a door that has spring loaded hinges so it is easy to get in and out of….this way you will use it.  NO KEYPADS on FLOOR SAFES!  Too many problems come from keypads on floor safes. 

Visit our webpage for a good selection of Floor Safes  or for more information check out www.safesblog.com. Which is a very good site giving information on safe models.



Floor Safes model FS-b2

Lets take a look at floor safes model fs-b2.  Which is the big brother to the fs-b1.  Be sure to read my entry on that floor safes model because much of it will apply to this model as well.  I have included some features below but I want to take a moment and point out that pratical and the P.I.T.A. side (pain in the arse) of floor safes.

First, I love floor safes. I believe these are the MOST secure style of safe on the market for homeowners in this price range.  Think about it, starting price for b rated floor safes is under $400 and that includes shipping to you!  You get a safe that is concreted into the foundation of the home and then hidden by carpet or a rug.  Being hidden is a superior advantage in security.  Because if they can’t find it…they can’t get into it.  I have even had home owners that have lived in a house for years call me and say “We are changing out our carpeting in the master bedroom and we found a Floor Safe we didn’t know was there…can you tell me the combination?” (If its unlocked a locksmith can read the lock and find the combination).  If a homeowner doens’t know whats in their own home just think about a burglar that is only there for 3-8 minutes!

Now lets pretend the thief finds the floor safe. And we have to pretend because it happens so rarely. But lets pretend we left the carpet pulled back and we posted a neon sign that says “Floor Safe Here!” 

The thief says “Wow a floor safe, I’ll run to the garage and get a sledge hammer and bang in the door”.  This won’t work because the door is acually sitting on an interior lip that keeps it from being banged into the safe.

30 minutes of banging later the thief is exusted from swinging the sledge hammer and says to himself “I really need to start working out again” gets the idea to try something else besides banging on the door.  So back to the garage he goes and finds a crowbar and starts prying…which gets him now where except sweaty and tired. 

He then thinks to himself that he better break for lunch before he tries tunneling under the house or renting a jack hammer for the next 5 hours!  Now thats a great safe!

Check this model out on our Floor Safes page.

  • Group II combination lock
  • Drill resistant hard plate
  • Spring loaded active relocker bolt
  • 1/2″ solid steel door
  • 1/4″ solid steel body
  • (3) 3/4″ chrome plated solid steel locking bolts
  • 9 3/4″ x 11″ Door opening
  • 7 3/4″ x 11″ Door clearance
  • Spring loaded hinges

Press release for Safes

Below is a press release from Valuesafes. In case you want to read it. It just talks a little about Valuesafes and who they are.  Nothing of grand importance, like SAFES,  just tidbits of info about them. When I started locksmithing I didn’t know anything about Safes but now after so long and seeing so many models…like which always needed repair, which safe keeps out the bad guys and which one only makes you feel secure.

www.ValueSafes.com opens a new informational blog to help customers understand the importance of choosing the right safe, backing that knowledge up with an impressive selection of safes for all needs.

Corpus Christi, TX (PRWEB) May 15, 2008 — After 10 years as a locksmith, the Value Safes owner has learned more than a little bit about the importance of finding the right safe. “My customers were wanting and needing better advice,” explains the owner, who has owned and operated www.ValueSafes.com with his wife Jessica for over 4 years in addition to operating his locksmith business. “They were finding just cheap, bottom-of-the-line safes at department stores, bringing them into our locksmith shops, and saying, ‘I lost the key to this’. I’d literally stick a bobby pin into the slot and pop them open. I’d turn around — we never look into the safe — and say, ‘Please tell me you don’t have money in there’, but people would put ten thousand dollars in there and not even know.”

Protecting one’s valuables is a vital part of personal security, but oftentimes customers don’t even realize the true value of their possessions. “Let’s say you bought a gold necklace ten years ago, and you paid a thousand dollars for it,” he explains, giving a prime example. “The price of gold has gone up three times in ten years, and now it’s a three thousand dollar necklace. Along with the current gold rush is the rush to purchase a safe to put it in! We sell a lot to coin collectors who wake up one day and realize their collection has gotten pretty heavy, and it’s time to bump up and buy a real safe.”

My customers were wanting and needing better advice

Giving people a better selection of safes to choose from became one of his goals, but recently he’s focused on providing them with better information, as well. In opening his new blog at www.SafesBlog.com, he is using his experience as a locksmith and seller of safes to match customers with the safe that fits their needs. “There is no Consumer Reports out there that grades safes,” he explains, “so I plan on taking each model number that we carry and basically putting a general rating system on it. This is both the way I see it’s constructed and the comments that my customers leave. Has that particular model of safe ever been broken into? If so, how? What’s the safe’s best use? There are some safes just made for fireproofing or waterproofing, but a waterproof, fireproof safe is not made to keep a burglar out; it’s just made to keep your documents from burning or getting soaked. The customer needs to know that, and I don’t want them to purchase an item thinking they’re getting everything they need if that’s not the safe’s intended purpose.”

Looking out for customers’ needs has always been the Value Safes owner’s priority, and he is hopeful that proper information is the answer. “There’s a lot of confusion out there in the retail market,” he says. “Safes have not been readily available to people, and that limits understanding. At the big box retail stores, people go out and think that all safes are made from plastic because that’s all that is on display. Now, because of the Internet, the customer has a source to go to, and they can get opinions through our blog. I want people to leave opinions; if your safe was broken into, let us know how it was broken into. I want to hear about that.”

High Security Wall Safe WS6B

High Security Wall Safe model WS6B is one of the top notch wall safes on the market. B rated with drill resistant hardplate. (Hardplate has to be melted and is placed over the lock on the inside of the safe).  Thick 1/4 inch steel walls and back plate. Designed to hold up against crow bar and sledge hammer attacks.

Note the 3 holes on the side for mounting to studs or some folks even concrete this wall safe into place.  Its important to point out that this safe will hold up but you better make sure to find a good hiding place anyway.  Also, it will only be as secure as the wall you mount it too.

Also includes one of my favorite, made in Kentucky, Group II, Sargent & Greenleaf, dial combination locks.

Non Fireproof but high on security gives this model a thumbs up for best wall safe on the market.  I’ve seen this sell for as much as $750 but I saw it the other day on www.ValueSafes.com for sale at $499. and that included shipping. Check out their Wall Safes.


  • 1/2″ Solid Steel 5 Bolt Door
  • 1/4″ Thick Steel Walls
  • Dual Relock Systems
  • Drill Resistive Hardplate
  • UL Listed Key or Combination Locks
  • Recessed Door w/ Heavy Duty hinge
  • 2 Removable Shelves
  • Mounting Holes provided

Safes are safer than banks.

Below is an excerpt from my dear friend Jason Hommel and his newsletter “The Silver Stock Report” I don’t share all his opinions but I found the warnings against banks intresting.  I really like the idea of everybody buying SAFES! Hahahaa…. If you would like to sign up to get his free news letter just follow the link above.   As a side note, I like his faith and he has been right for several years in regards to the prices of silver.  Kinda intresting if you are into coin collecting or the Christian Faith.

Some think Matt 6:19 means that we, as Christians, can’t store money for the future, despite other clear verses that show that to be a virtue, such as Matthew 25, Dueteronomy 28:8, Proverbs 21:20, Proverbs 6:6-8, and Proverbs 30:24-45.

It is good to store up money to further the gospel kingdom; as ministry and service costs money. 

Jesus also warns against storing money in a location where thieves are known to break in and steal–this would include banks, which are institutions of theft.  Banks are the modern day “money lenders” in the Temple whose tables Jesus overturned, the modern thieves, because they only keep a fraction of deposits on hand.  The Federal Reserve is stealing value from people who hold paper money or bonds in banks through inflation.  (Hint: Do not store your precious metals in a safety deposit box in a bank.  Why store it in the viper’s den, where theives are known to break in and steal, or where laws can change and they can assess or tax or steal the contents of such a box in the future?)

Buying gold or silver is a way to store up treasures in heaven, since buying gold is an act of righteousness and obedience and dominion, and is a rejection of false weights and measures, and is a rejection of usury.  Neither moth nor rust affect silver and gold. 

Here is another often misunderstood verse:

Matthew 6:24  No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Some think this means that Christians should live in poverty.  Not so.  There were rich disciples.

Matthew 27:57 When the evening was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus’ disciple:

Christians are called to be able to relieve the poverty of others, and that takes wealth.  How can you have extra to give to others, unless you have extra to give, or more than enough for yourself?  (2 Corinthians 8 speaks on this, the giving of one’s abundance, or surplus.) 

The whole point of free trade and capitalism is to be able to trade away the surplus of your production.  Matt 6:1-4 is about giving alms for the poor.  I believe that to “serve mammon, or money” means making money your master instead of making God your master.  We are called to master our money, to make our money serve us, instead, and take dominion, once again.

I believe Matt 6:24 is warning about how you must have a right view of money; that the wrong view puts money in front of God, the right view puts God first, us second, and money third. 

Furthermore, consider those who are in debt.  All who are in debt are serving a different master, they are serving their present and past selves as they seek to repay the money they borrowed and spent in the past, rather than serve the God of the past, present and future, and they enslave their future selves as they go into debt.

And how can you give to others while you are in debt?  To do so means that you take away from what is due to your lender.

Proverbs 22:7  The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.

1 Corinthians 7:23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

Visit ValueSafes for the purchase of SAFES.

Wall Safe SW-1214c

sw-1214c.jpgThe Wall Safe model SW-1214c is good model. Easy to install and hide. Depth is larger than 2×4 stud wall.  So find a deeper spot than normal to install it.  This is not a high security wall safe.  Only the Group II combination lock keeps this safe closed.  It will hold up okay in an attack but not as good as one that is secured with several bolts. See the picture above to see how the locks bolt keeps the door closed. While you are looking at the picture, you will see two holes in the side. That is where you will send two screws through to attach to the studs in the wall. (If it were me, I will drill a third hole in the center so I would have three screws in each stud for extra security)

 This safe is not fireproof.  It is designed to keep your shtuff hidden and out of the hands of thieves.  So find a good hidding place for this safe. Don’t forget your attic, there are many spaces in the attic to attach a wall safe too. I have never heard a home owner complain that a thief took ANYTHING from an attic. It is very inconvient, which makes it a good hiding spot for your wall safe.

  • Hidden hinges
  • (1) Removable shelf
  • 9″ x 9″ door clearance
  • 3/8″ solid steel door
  • 1/16″ solid steel body
  • S & G Group II combination lock

You can purchase this wall safe and other Wall Safes from our friends at ValueSafes.  Feel free to leave your commits or questions here on www.safesblog.com

Wall Safe EW-03

The EW-03 Wall Safe is the “big brother” to the EW-02 wall safe. Which is a highly regarded wall safe. Though neither are a B rated wall safe. Both should hold up against an attack very well.  Read my EW-02 wall safe posting for some details that I may miss here.

The big difference is the size. The EW-03 is larger and has an extra bolt to support the larger door. Depth is about the same on both models which is around 7 1/2 inches. This will not fit in the standard 2×4 wall. 

The other day I had a question about “What happens if the batteries go dead?” Thats okay, this safe has an external overide that will open it from the outside of the safe. You will still need the combination AND the key to retract the bolts.  The memory of the keypad is “non-volatile” which means it will not reset to factory code if the battery goes dead. It WILL maintain that 6 digit combo that you put into it.  So if you forget your combo….you can’t get inside the wall safe

Over all this safe gets high marks for quality and price.  I would not hesistate to install this wall safe in my own home.  Due find a good hiding place for it that is well covered and out of the way.  Some times bathrooms make a great place to install a wall safe.

This wall safe is not fireproof.  Most wall safes are just steel. However, there are several available in the industy. Fireproof Wall Safe WS-DIY is a good model take a look on www.ValueSafes.com

  • Hidden hinges
  • (1) Removable shelf
  • (3) 3/4″ chrome plated active locking bolts
  • (2) 6 number combination digital lock
  • High security dimple key which retracts the bolts
  • (3) 3/4″ solid steel chrome plated bolts
  • 9″ x 9″ door clearance
  • 3/8″ solid steel door
  • 1/16″ solid steel body
  • Non-volatile memory

Wall Safe EW-02

 Wall Safes model EW-02is built a lot stronger than other wall safes that are priced under the $100. price range. This is one of the better models in its price range!

  Hidden hinges

  • (1) Removable shelf
  • (2) 7/8″ chrome plated active locking bolts
  • (2) 6 number combination digital lock
  • High security dimple key which retracts the bolts




  • (2) 7/8″ solid steel chrome plated bolts
  • 9″ x 6 3/4″ door clearance
  • 3/8″ solid steel door
  • 1/16″ solid steel body
  • Non-volatile memory

Based on the thickness of the bolts at 7/8 inch…which might as well be a 1 inch bolt in my opinion.  You have the makings for a high security wall safe.  Except without the drill resistant hardplate.  Which for my experience with safes in general, I have NEVER seen a safe attacked with a drill!  I have seen every tool under the sun PLUS metal mop buckets, broom handles, and chairs used on safes. (This should give you an idea of the desperation of a thief and the endurance of safes).

I really like this safe model and its big brother the EW-03for an extremly well built wall safein its price range.  Be careful of the depth. Its deeper than the standard wall that is 2×4.  So this one will need a special place.  

Another thing to point out is that I would like to see added to this safe is more mounting holes on the left and right side of the wall safe.  You can add these real quick by just drilling extra holes with a standard drill and bit.  If you will take the time to add these and then use these holes.  This wall safe will be very tightly fastened to the wall studs.  I also prefer screws. 

If you are in a new construction building that uses metal studs be sure to use a “self taping screw” available from any hardware store.  Also use a washer or lock washer on the inside of the safe for best security.  So if your wall safe doesn’t come with three holes just add them.

Over all I give this safe a thumbs up for construction and protection against theft.  There is no fire rating in this model.  You can purchase this model from ValueSafes on their wall safes section.

Wall Safes

I wanted to take the time out to discuss some pro’s and con’s of Wall SafesValueSafes sells many different models from High Security Wall Safes, Fireproof Wall Safes, Hidden Wall Safes, and just affordable Wall Safes.  This will be a practicle discussion. I welcome anyone to leave feedback of their experiences to add to this article. 

First lets look at the varying qualities of wall safes.  Prices start from $59.00 and go up to as much as $700.  They all have one security feature in common.  Thier hidden.  Nobody can find them.  Thus the old saying about “Out of sight Out of mind” comes into play.  If a thief can’t find the safe. How can he break into it?  This is the top feature of ALL wall safes

Now lets think about what happens if a thief finds it. (Heaven forbid but it does happen) First most thieves DON’T come with tools. Most come empty handed and want to leave with their hands full.  They don’t come running straight for the wall safe with a crow bar in hand. 

But lets say they did come into the house with a crow bar in hand.  How would a wall safe hold up in a real attack? Well, they will get into the $59 wall safe pretty darn quick….like gone in 60 seconds quick.  Depressing and scary t0 think about…I know I wouldn’t want that to happen to me!

Lets look a little closer. The door is sealed by a key operated cam lock on this small model and the metal in pretty thin.  Now lets say its a model that uses a Dial or keypad?  Hmmm, not as quick but with time they can pry the door open.  How much time will vary upon the tools used and the strength of the person whacking on the wall safes.  (Are you starting to get nervous about buying a wall safe…keep reading)

Okay, lets say I install a B Rated Wall Safe.  Drill resistant hardplate. Group II dial combination.  Multiple mounting holes for attaching to the wooden studs.  This one is not gonna get pryed open.  It would be an absolute monster with big teeth holding onto the wood studs!  But if the wood or wall gives way the thief can take the safe with him and work on opening at home.

The moral of the story is….

1.Wall Safes are best for keeping out “sticky fingers”. 

2.Attach the Wall Safe with all mounting hardware so it is as secure as possible.

3.Find a good place to hide the safe.

4.You will get what you pay for in a wall safe if a real thief attacks it.

Remember to think of your home in layers of security. Good Deadbolts and window locks.  Sliding doors need more than a wooden dowl rod to keep them from opening. Alarms are an interior layer that should be considered.  Wall Safes are great and work great if the above layers are in place. 

If the above layers are not in place, I would give thought to where I was putting the safe. (attic spaces are rarely looked into because they are so out of the way for theives) If I couldn’t find a place that I was totally convinced that nobody would find, I would rethink getting a wall safe…unless its for keeping out “sticky fingers”.

Take a look at ValueSafes for an excellant selection or give them a call to check into this a little more deeply.